Part 2: Cross Examining Jeffrey Epstein & The Finders

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We begin Part 2 of our discussion of Jeffrey Epstein by discussing a candid video of an ABC news anchor admitting that she was directed to bury and ignore Epstein stories back to 2016. We then discuss the importance of independent testimony to verify a claim and how to verify that independent testimony is actually independent, and we then do a re-cap of the independent data and independent testimony that links Epstein to the intelligence communities. We discuss Epstein's "Little Black Book" a handwritten record important people he knew and their personal contact methods. We discuss possible reasons why an individual would want to keep such a contact book and touch on some of the names in this book: Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey. Epstein's contact book connects Epstein to the NXIVM (nex-eee-um) cult. NXIVM is publicly a multi-level marketing company but the US Government states that NXIVM is a cult. NXIVM is connected to several breakaway Mormon communities in northern Mexico by procuring girls from these Mormon communities to serve in NXIVM's compounds on the north-eastern seaboard. We paint a picture of a child-trafficking route that existed in the Finders' time from the north-eastern seaboard down through Mexico and the continuation of this child-trafficking route under Epstein's supervision into the modern day. We discuss the profit motive of and the profitability of the trafficking routes. We conclude by discussing occult religious angles to Epstein's activities; the temple on his island, his obsession with improving the human genome by siring a new generation of supermen using himself as a template and the tenets of theistic Satanism and how those same tenets may apply to Epstein's activities and objectives. Attorney Andrew Morrow returns as our guest.

Part 1: Cross Examining Jeffrey Epstein & The Finders

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In part 1 we discuss the definition and ramifications of the word “conspiracy” and legal standards of evidence for a claim. ⠀ ⠀ We then talk about Jeffrey Epstein’s early life and his mysterious rise in the financial sector while claiming to be an intelligence agent and being involved in the Iran-Contra Affair. ⠀ ⠀ We discuss Epstein's connections to some of the most infamous spies in history as well as prior precedent for the US Government being compromised by nefarious organizations. ⠀ ⠀ We discuss recently declassified FBI documents relating to a mysterious cult of child traffickers named “The Finders” that were active from the 50s to 1993 and how they may relate to Epstein. ⠀ ⠀ Specifically we discuss the connections between the Finders and the US intelligence community, the Finders' mysterious and nefarious activities and then tie Epstein to being the legacy of the Finders organization through their mutual ties to the intelligence community and their shared activities that hint at a shared role. Our guest for this segment is Andrew Morrow, an attorney.

Part 2: Tom Delonge & The UFO Phenomena

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In episode 2 we pick up where we left off, after Tom's original advisers were exposed in the Wikileaks dump of 2016. This led to Tom forming a second group of advisers in 2017, who now comprise the To the Stars Academy of Arts and Sciences. We begin by examining the members of TTSA and exploring the purpose of this organization. We then continue considering point #2 from Colin's article (https://thecultishshow.com/blog/engaging-et), by discussing Mr. Luis Elizondo, the intelligence officer who was central to the New York Times' ground breaking piece in 2017. We also consider the testimony of Top Gun pilot Commander David Fravor, who was also featured in that article and recently appeared on the Joe Rogan Podcast. Clearly, the government is being more open about this subject, and the media is taking it much more seriously than in the past. Finally, we end by considering the subject from a Christian worldview perspective. While some UFOs may indeed be misidentified natural phenomenon, or some secret government tests, many objects that are credibly observed do not fit neatly into these categories. What exactly is a Christian to make of Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon, which demonstrates anomalous characteristics and intelligent control? Tune in to the discussion to find out.

Part 1: Tom Delonge & The UFO Phenomena

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In part one we begin to discuss Colin's article ( https://thecultishshow.com/blog/engaging-et ), thinking especially of the religious implications of ET/UFO beliefs. Pastor Samul gives us some of his background and testimony, and explains why he has continued to follow this subject. We discuss the modern obsession with UFOs in relation to everything from the New Age, Mormonism, Transhumanism, and the theory of Evolution. As we will see, the UFO is the apotheosis of modern religious sentiments We then delve into the background of Tom Delonge in the early formation of his company "To the Stars." We quickly dive into the rabbit hole of clandestine government contacts and our military's interaction with the UFO phenomenon, as related to Tom by his original advisers from within the government. According to them the phenomenon is not only real, but has often appeared threatening to our military establishment. We end with Tom's original advisers breaking off contact with him, as their identities were exposed in the 2016 wikileak dump of DNC emails. This would lead to Tom organizing a second group of government advisers who are now publicly associated with him through the To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science, which we will explore further in episode 2.

Part 3 : Across The Table With Elijah Stephens

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In part 3 of our dialogue with Bethel attendee Elijah Stephens , we discus some important theological issues brought up in our initial series Defecting From Bethel. ⁣ What does Bill Johnson really believe and teach about Jesus Christ? Does their message just have an unhealthy view of signs and wonders or should they be put into the same category of Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses? Tune into this important dialogue and be part of the conversation.

Part 2: Across The Table With Elijah Stephens

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In part 2 we continue our discussion with Elijah Stephens who currently attends Bethel Church and flew out from Redding, California to be with us in studio. ⁣ ⁣ Elijah teaches BSSM classes and Bethel Equip Classes on Apologetics and the Bible and wanted to be part of the continuing conversation about the Bethel Movment ⁣ ⁣ Though Elijah has received the blessings of his leadership to come on the show and talk with us, he is not coming on as Bethel’s official representative. We discussed a broad variety of topics and while the issues surrounding Bethel are extraordinarily concerning and serious, we also hope to show they can be discussed in a civil manner the same way in which Walter Martin used to do whenever he was a guest on the Jon Ankerberg show. ⁣